Muslims

[RPGMasterTurk91]

When I said

I was aiming it at anyone who thought that
was meant for them. If the cap fits, and all that.......

I've read nearly every word written here and I've tried to understand all of the points of view expressed. I am struggling to understand some people's desire to display their ignorance in such a public way. Not just of each others religion but also of how they are manipulated by their 'leaders'. This applies to both sides of this discussion.

Prior to starting the 'War On Terror' George Bush said repeatedly
"you're either with us or you're with the terrorists".

READ THAT STATEMENT AGAIN.

"You're either with us or you're with the terrorists"

Really?

Can't I choose to condemn both groups for killing people?


Back to religion for a moment. I personally think that you are ALL misguided in your faith. Sorry to offend, but that's what I think. And it is just that. What I think.

There are no hard proofs that any cult is the true path to heaven. NO, THERE ARE NOT. Stop deluding yourself. It is only your BELIEF.

However, I would defend your right to follow your religion until doing so infringes on the rights of others to do the same ( so no 'kill all wii owners' religions allowed. sorry).

I understand what you mean. Everyone is boggled up in what they truly believe--or even if they feel sincerity in their religion. Of course, when other peoples' rights and freedoms are being infringed it's not fair and you cannot get away with that. However, when the government makes up bogus excuses (the British government in this case) for Muslim women not wearing a veil, for instance. They claim that these women could be using these veils as a large pocket to fit items in--those in particular that could be dangerous. However, there was not a case where this has occured, and on top of that, taking advantage of your veil and using it as a source to hide dangerous objects is disrespecting the purpose, taking advantage of and abusing the religion, and not undertaking in a religous act at all. Therefore, hiding anything in that manner is not considered an Islamic act and anyone can do it. A woman can carry a knife, a gun, or even a bomb in her purse, why take away the hijab? They are making issues out of nothing...

 

[zeon9881]

finally RPG XD i didn't know how to answer that question (im not political)

actully i did know ow to answer it but now how to phrase it

 

[RPGMasterTurk91]

finally RPG XD i didn't know how to answer that question (im not political)

actully i did know ow to answer it but now how to phrase it

lol it seems that you've been awaiting my response for a good response, as you were not able to counter that quote as easily as me :cornut: . Relieved?

 

[zeon9881]

yes i am relived....but man nobodys posted here for awhile

 

[Scrup]

However, let me make one thing clear. After alot o research, theories and watchin many videos and reading articles, i have came to the conclusion (As have many many many many others) That 9/11 was an inside job. If you check the facts, and look at how the buildings actually collpased, you would see that it was more than terorrism....it was Bush himself.

Its also been pretty much proven it was an inside job.

You actually believe that ****? how stupid are you? You think that Bush? BUSH? planned the 9/11 attacks?http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

 

[Squall7]

You actually believe that ****? how stupid are you? You think that Bush? BUSH? planned the 9/11 attacks?http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

You may want to wait til after your second post before you start accusing people of being stupid.

And please, enlighten us as to how it's "stupid" to believe in these things...

I mean obviously, I'm sure George W Bush probably isn't intelligent enough to do this personally. But that doesn't rule out anyone else.

And also 1 last question, is it stupid to remain skeptical of the Media's reasoning behind these attacks: That "they hate our freedom"?

 

[Scrup]

You may want to wait til after your second post before you start accusing people of being stupid.

And please, enlighten us as to how it's "stupid" to believe in these things...

I mean obviously, I'm sure George W Bush probably isn't intelligent enough to do this personally. But that doesn't rule out anyone else.

And also 1 last question, is it stupid to remain skeptical of the Media's reasoning behind these attacks: That "they hate our freedom"?

Im not saying its stupid to be skeptical of the "media's reasoning", but to suggest that Bush would plan it is, which is what Ottaman said.

He cant even hold a book the right way, let alone organize 9/11

 

[zeon9881]

XD that made me laugh

 

[Squall7]

Im not saying its stupid to be skeptical of the "media's reasoning", but to suggest that Bush would plan it is, which is what Ottaman said.

He cant even hold a book the right way, let alone organize 9/11

I think he meant Bush as a symbol or icon for the American Government, rather than Bush himself.

He did repeat the "inside Job" part. Also used for shcok value, to get people's attention.

But then, you'll have to ask it about him, when he returns.

But yeah, I see what you're saying. He's either geniunely not that intelligent, secretly a comedian or is an evil genius that's convinced the world that he's not intelligent...

 

[RPGMasterTurk91]

You may want to wait til after your second post before you start accusing people of being stupid.

And please, enlighten us as to how it's "stupid" to believe in these things...

I mean obviously, I'm sure George W Bush probably isn't intelligent enough to do this personally. But that doesn't rule out anyone else.

And also 1 last question, is it stupid to remain skeptical of the Media's reasoning behind these attacks: That "they hate our freedom"?

You tell'em! You can't brand someone as "stupid" for believing things that have reasoning behind them. Just because YOU don't see reasoning behind those, doesn't mean everyone else has to be like you. And Ottoman said Bush as the surpreme executor of action and basically confirms or controls what goes on--pointing to him, the head of the nation itself. As Squall says, it could have also been a general icon to the overall rulers of this country who make the top decision and people with most power, if anything.

Backed by intense research and facts, people have made intelligent accusations of why the government would have planned the attacks--and detailed information on how it would have been done by the government. According to the basher, there is no logic in that. However, according to the researchers and believers, they see a lot of logic in how something like that could occur (has occured).

 

[zeon9881]

Yea What Rpg Said =) Xd

 

[RPGMasterTurk91]

Yea What Rpg Said =) Xd

Yea! What that awesome RPG said! He's great with words and knows how to answer questions well! On top of all that, he respects everyone no matter who they are! He's the kind of guy that despises ignorance, which leads to false accusations and wasted efforts and times on something that is simply believed incorrectly about another group/religion or whatever.

 

[zeon9881]

your not that good at writing

OR ARE YOU:shifty:

 

[RPGMasterTurk91]

your not that good at writing

OR ARE YOU:shifty:

lol. Let's use this thread as a way of educating people on Islam and negating ignorance instead of playing pesky games on the thread. Just a thought. I take it that you're amazingly bored

 

[AussieWii]

You actually believe that ****? how stupid are you? You think that Bush? BUSH? planned the 9/11 attacks?http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Great Page

This is one of those threads that cant ever achieve anything

I say muslims suck and then the muslims come on and say they dont suck and then go on to outline their reasons and it just keeps going around in a worthless circle

Anyone who thinks that the Americans planned 911 are really quite stupid
I have more than 2 post so i can say that without fear of harrasment

You may want to wait til after your second post before you start accusing people of being stupid

Muslims dont suck
Muslims that kill innocent people suck
fight the enemy mr muslim not the innocent people :idea: