The Wii's Dirty Little Secret - Outrage over 'Portals to Porno'

[tank]

Wiiporn.....lolz

 

[Canvas]

First, I am not being abusive to him, I am speaking to him at an adult level. I shouldn't have to dumb down my talk because you believe he isn't able to "take it."

Anyway

America was NOT founded on a christian basis. Thomas Jefferson was a huge deist and hated every aspect of religion and christianity, along with Ben Franklin. Read http://nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm They would be disgusted with how this country is run now.

America is also not the most free country in the world. Real freedom would understand that laws shouldn't be made based on opinion; laws should only exist to protect the rights of individuals and thats about it.

Jesus believed in the same God Judaism believes in, aka the Abrahamic God

I have to repeat that Christianity did not begin at the beginning of time or whatever. In Christian belief, yes you believe that the God created the earth in 7 days and all that mumbojumbo, but do you really believe that the existence of everything in the unimaginably huge universe began 5,000 years ago when we have evidence that blows that out of the water? It takes millions of light years for the stars above us to show their light; we even found alien life on mars. I highly suggest you read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I know the title sounds very blasphemous to read, but in order to fully believe in something you must challenge it. Trust me on this one, I am not trying to make you an atheist, just to get some facts straight thats all.

Whenever you have freetime, feel free to message me on AIM @ benvandenbroeck. We can talk about these things for hours. I actually do one on one classes with younger kids interested in science, and the laws of the universe. I bet the wii forum kids are sick of reading all this critical thinking when all they wanna do is talk and gossip about nintendo lol.

 

[ssbb_lover]

First, I am not being abusive to him, I am speaking to him at an adult level. I shouldn't have to dumb down my talk because you believe he isn't able to "take it."

Thank you very much, I appreciate it. My teacher says that exact same sentence...what's your name? :lol:
[/QUOTE]America was NOT founded on a christian basis. Thomas Jefferson was a huge deist and hated every aspect of religion and christianity, along with Ben Franklin. Read http://nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm They would be disgusted with how this country is run now.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree with that, other men that were prominent in America also were not Christians. Then again, they weren't the people who founded our country. To be literal, Columbus actually founded the land, but he wasn't the founder of America (as you obviously know). But, men, women and children like the Pilgrims, etc. were the founders, and they were all Protestant and Presbyterian. New England (of the time of the Pilgrims/Quakers) was practically the new Geneva. It was the ideal, Christian society (not to mention, both of them were some of the most politically and humanely sound societies ever known).

America is also not the most free country in the world. Real freedom would understand that laws shouldn't be made based on opinion; laws should only exist to protect the rights of individuals and thats about it.

I agree with you. Laws shouldn't be made based on opinions, but sometimes it's a must, there's no other way. Take abortion, some people think it's right, some think it's wrong. Opinions shouldn't rule everything else out, but in certain cases, I think it has to be like that. If you want to get down to the nitty-gritty, embrioes (sp?) inside the womb DO have functional brain waves (as recent studies show). America is one of the most blood bathed nations in the history of the world because of abortion (of course, everyone has their opinions on this topic, don't they?).

Jesus believed in the same God Judaism believes in, aka the Abrahamic God[/QUOTE
So does Roman Catholicism, doesn't mean I agree with the religion. Purgatory, I believe, is just an idea thought up by the RCC (Roman Catholic Church) so they could sell ??? which equaled big money. What better way to make money, then to tell people of they didn't get a ??? they and their loves ones would suffer going through the levels of the seven worst sins till they got to heaven, or had a chance to slip into hell.

I have to repeat that Christianity did not begin at the beginning of time or whatever. In Christian belief, yes you believe that the God created the earth in 7 days and all that mumbojumbo, but do you really believe that the existence of everything in the unimaginably huge universe began 5,000 years ago when we have evidence that blows that out of the water? It takes millions of light years for the stars above us to show their light; we even found alien life on mars. I highly suggest you read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I know the title sounds very blasphemous to read, but in order to fully believe in something you must challenge it. Trust me on this one, I am not trying to make you an atheist, just to get some facts straight thats all.

The part I bolded I especially liked, you're not trying to pressure me, just trying to give an example to better learn myself where you're coming from (if I haven't already made it clear, I appreciate the way you don't just say things blatantly).

However, I don't believe that the universe etc was created 5,000 years ago. That was the time of Abraham. What about the dinosaurs, Adam & Eve? (I know you've already thought of those things, i'm just kind of questioning myself...) I favor a time closer to 10,000+ years (by '+' I don't mean an estimate from 10,000 to 100,000,000,000,000; just a little more than 10,000 such as 15,000 or so.

Whenever you have freetime, feel free to message me on AIM @ benvandenbroeck. We can talk about these things for hours. I actually do one on one classes with younger kids interested in science, and the laws of the universe. I bet the wii forum kids are sick of reading all this critical thinking when all they wanna do is talk and gossip about nintendo lol.

Definitely, I enjoy talking about these types of things as well as talking to you.

Screw forum kids, they need to learn about these things sooner or later in life.

 

[Canvas]

My name is Ben Van Den Broeck, I live in LA but grew up in Lexington, KY (hence my relation with a religious backdrop). see you on AIM.

And on one note, the people who founded the country United States of America was Jefferson and the constitution crew we all know of. The immigrants who occupied the country beforehand don't really count because they were just under control from the Brits and really thats the beginning of western civilization, not America.

 

[Brawny]

Whoa, I missed a lot.

ahem. (I haven't read any replies before my previous post so if some of this has been said, please excuse it.)

yes I am an atheist, but that has nothing to do with the comment I left.

Lets put things into perspective. Along with the ridiculous disgust of our own bodies within our society, Christianity (hypocritical to their own book of belief) pushes the idea that our bodies and the act of sex are immoral unless done in the prescribed way (in bed, vaginal only and please, nothing kinky).

Man, you got it all wrong. I agree that Christianity has more hypocrites than other religions, but don't discount all of the others. I am pissed at these people in the article just as much as you are. Reminds me of those people who picketed the Amish family's children's funerals.

This issue is about children right? I understand the concern of young children getting a hold of pornography would be a problem for its unrealism (even surrealism), but understand that the people who support this cause play the "ban, not educate" card. When your children are searching for porn, that means that they are curious to understand this secret act that they are unaware of. It is important to note that if your kid must turn to his wii to learn about sex through porn (as incorrect as that may be), I call the blame on the close minded parents. Not only is there obvious notice that internet is available on this system, but that there is parental controls as well. Also, a local internet connection is necessary in order to get on to the internet.

Now, if the child is looking for pornography after he has gained knowledge of what sex really is, that just means he's a completely normal, healthy kid. I'd much rather know that my child first learned about sex from me rather than the often sexist, abusive and bizarre nature of pornography. (OH, and this applies to female children too!)

I don't feel like getting into the topic of Christianity in general, please read my book for everything you as a human being need to know about the American cult called Christianity: Mary: The Mother Of Modern Day Psychosis.

Um.... I agree with everything except for it being ok *after* you know about it. Doesn't quite make sense. "hey, now that you know you'll get lung cancer from smoking, here's some ciggys."?

second, by labeling yourself as Christian, you lump yourself with the extreme fundies shown in the article. Do what Christianity's history has always done, start a new sect when you don't agree with the previous one. That is the biggest problem with Christianity is the simple fact that it has changed so much since its foundation that no original copy exists anymore.

Why would *we* have to start a new DENOMINATION? It is they in the article that are shunned from the community. The denoms are different in little things mostly. Songs you sing, if you're allowed to watch secular (I really hate that word) movies/songs. Stuff like that. They all agree (except for Catholicism maybe) in the Bible.

fourth, yes irresponsible sex is not a game, yet when birth control is added to the equation, it is a fun, loving act of passion (or just fun too). The reason Christianity only supported sex within marriage was because it was a form of social control. Children are incredibly vulnerable to such fantastic ideas such as God, in the same way children love unicorns, fairies and a giant red dog named Clifford. Tell a child anything and they'll believe it. One of the first lessons of adulthood is to never believe everything you are told, yet many people are unfortunate to learn that vital step.

Everything about Christianity can be looked at two different ways. First, it is man made and is a guideline for "social control". That is what you, squall, and others believe. It also can be the word of God telling us how to live and since he is good, it seems like a social control. Sorry if you can't see an argument in there...

Sex is a loving, fun act of passion, to your spouse. Why should sex not have any ramifications? If I go drink a lot and get addicted, it is my fault and I am looked down on. When I go have sex and get somebody pregnant, it is more socially acceptable and you can just have and abortion...Makes no sense.

Lets see, we have the Church of England, Episcopalian, Baptism, Catholism, Islam, and many more.

Um, if you were a Christian before, how do you think that Islam is Christianity. It is Baptist, and Catholicism.

Also, ssbb_lover Jesus was a Jew and followed it well. Doncha remember he taught in the temple at age 12? If he didn't believe in it, his quotes of scripture would have no meaning.

Christianity is "always relevant" because of how vague it is, and everything that is obvious has either been taken out or edited to fit the time. The only reason its relevant is because it is made to be relevant. One of the earliest versions of the bible has a section where Jesus is said to have relations with a young boy, but that was edited out around 300 AC.

Christianity isn't vague. It has always stated the laws. You keep saying that the laws are after the Romans. Most of the Bible was completed before then. The stuff written during their occupation isn't law at all. Please say where you got that from. Besides, it's AD. You seem very uneducated to me for writing a book on this.

I have to repeat that Christianity did not begin at the beginning of time or whatever. In Christian belief, yes you believe that the God created the earth in 7 days and all that mumbojumbo, but do you really believe that the existence of everything in the unimaginably huge universe began 5,000 years ago when we have evidence that blows that out of the water? It takes millions of light years for the stars above us to show their light; we even found alien life on mars. I highly suggest you read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I know the title sounds very blasphemous to read, but in order to fully believe in something you must challenge it. Trust me on this one, I am not trying to make you an atheist, just to get some facts straight thats all.

Even discounting Creation, we can still go back to Abraham. Anyways, I believe in a 7 Billion year earth and I also believe that it doesn't go against my religion. I'll have to check out that book so I can take quotes out of context, just like the pro atheists do!!!

My name is Ben Van Den Broeck, I live in LA but grew up in Lexington, KY (hence my relation with a religious backdrop). see you on AIM.

Hey, you dutch? Also, what about being in Kentucky has to do with religion? Theres a lot of Catholic Mexicans in LA too. What does the place have to do with it?

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[Fox]

nothing, hes just rantin

 

[Mario's biggest fan123]

LOL I may be 13 but still I don't do that(u perves) still I think the parents should do the parental CONTROLS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean c'mon seriously. WTF is wrong wit u ppls?

 

[DaBiRd]

he he he pornzilla.com:devil:

 

[Jonny]

LOL I may be 13 but still I don't do that(u perves) still I think the parents should do the parental CONTROLS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean c'mon seriously. WTF is wrong wit u ppls?

oh you'll start when theres hair.

 

[Fox]

LOLZ yeah kid, its inevidable, when you got it, you watch it, too bad Wii cant play many videos, well, at least the onel I find, you can, however, watch videos in YouTube, how wierd!ut:

 

[NewtonVoig]

What they need is Wii mote interactivity with the porn

Can some developer please make a way for me to actively control the porno action with my wiimote using the motion sensitivity features. This would be hot.

 

[Ashenshugar]

Ok i got 1 thing to say about those Christian wannabe-mother****s.

They are seriously mentally ill in some ****ing way Cause porn is great, ffs porn is great..

 

[ottoman]

they wont block any sites, i dont see people critisicing microsoft or appel for allowing porn to be shown on their computers? or sony for their porno psp..and now PS3.

The wii will not have any sites blocked...if parents dont want their kids seeing porn, then they should make sure they dont THEMSELVES. or just get used to the fact their children will see it at one point of another.

 

[shrimpy20]

What's wrong about looking at Porn on your Wii? =P

 

[Brawny]

Why won't this topic dieeeeeeee???

An attempt at a joke I assume?

Pretty sure everyone agrees that those people are retards and should spend more time supervising their kids rather than being gay like that.

Summarized. End. Topic.