The Wii's Dirty Little Secret - Outrage over 'Portals to Porno'

[rattusrattusbreath]

what people would use the wii to look for porn? sado's!
xxx

 

[Fox]

You look so obviously EMO! Not to offend. lol
=]

 

[rattusrattusbreath]

lol im not emo trust me im the total opposite

 

[Fox]

Oh, lol sry, I thought you were, your pic kinda makes you look, you know, kinda gloomy, like an emo person.

 

[rattusrattusbreath]

lol yer i no i woz just experimentin i smile usually!

 

[Fox]

heh heh, experimentin...lol jk

 

[wiifreak9292]

ahem. (I haven't read any replies before my previous post so if some of this has been said, please excuse it.)

yes I am an atheist, but that has nothing to do with the comment I left.

Lets put things into perspective. Along with the ridiculous disgust of our own bodies within our society, Christianity (hypocritical to their own book of belief) pushes the idea that our bodies and the act of sex are immoral unless done in the prescribed way (in bed, vaginal only and please, nothing kinky).

This issue is about children right? I understand the concern of young children getting a hold of pornography would be a problem for its unrealism (even surrealism), but understand that the people who support this cause play the "ban, not educate" card. When your children are searching for porn, that means that they are curious to understand this secret act that they are unaware of. It is important to note that if your kid must turn to his wii to learn about sex through porn (as incorrect as that may be), I call the blame on the close minded parents. Not only is there obvious notice that internet is available on this system, but that there is parental controls as well. Also, a local internet connection is necessary in order to get on to the internet.

Now, if the child is looking for pornography after he has gained knowledge of what sex really is, that just means he's a completely normal, healthy kid. I'd much rather know that my child first learned about sex from me rather than the often sexist, abusive and bizarre nature of pornography. (OH, and this applies to female children too!)

I don't feel like getting into the topic of Christianity in general, please read my book for everything you as a human being need to know about the American cult called Christianity: Mary: The Mother Of Modern Day Psychosis.

the american cult??????? lololololololololololololol.....sorry. i'm a Christian and i will tell you that not all Christians are as "extreme" as this group. i am strongly against porno because it screws kids minds up.......also, God designed sex to be between a married couple. unfortuneatly, most people treat it like a little game that is no big deal....ut:

 

[Canvas]

first, Christianity is a cult for it follows and praises one individual who claimed to be part of a religion (Judaism), yet promoted different values and ideas. By modern day definition, a cult can reach the level of religion when enough people support it. Just look at Scientology.

second, by labeling yourself as Christian, you lump yourself with the extreme fundies shown in the article. Do what Christianity's history has always done, start a new sect when you don't agree with the previous one. That is the biggest problem with Christianity is the simple fact that it has changed so much since its foundation that no original copy exists anymore.

third, the term "Christian" was created as an insult to the people who followed Christ and litterly means "Jesus Freak." The romans saw this group of people praising this man, in the same sense that cult followers praise their cult leaders, and inevitably eliminated the leader. Romans saw Jesus in the same sense of how the American public looked at Charles Manson in the 60s or David Koresh in the early 90s.

fourth, yes irresponsible sex is not a game, yet when birth control is added to the equation, it is a fun, loving act of passion (or just fun too). The reason Christianity only supported sex within marriage was because it was a form of social control. Children are incredibly vulnerable to such fantastic ideas such as God, in the same way children love unicorns, fairies and a giant red dog named Clifford. Tell a child anything and they'll believe it. One of the first lessons of adulthood is to never believe everything you are told, yet many people are unfortunate to learn that vital step.

 

[wiifreak9292]

whatever.....i'll pray for you...

 

[Canvas]

please don't bother, I know it won't help either of us. I know more about your religion that I bet you'd like to know. I used to be a christian, but after 8 years of theological studies, and experiencing first hand the awful ways of the church, I changed my ways and became an atheist.

 

[ssbb_lover]

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first, Christianity is a cult for it follows and praises one individual who claimed to be part of a religion (Judaism), yet promoted different values and ideas. By modern day definition, a cult can reach the level of religion when enough people support it. Just look at Scientology.

Where does it say he was a part of Judaism? Christianity is not a cult. >_<

second, by labeling yourself as Christian, you lump yourself with the extreme fundies shown in the article. Do what Christianity's history has always done, start a new sect when you don't agree with the previous one. That is the biggest problem with Christianity is the simple fact that it has changed so much since its foundation that no original copy exists anymore.

No, actually, by calling myself a Christian i'm saying that I believe everything in the Bible, I try to follow the Ten Commandments, I pray and worship the One and Holy God, among other things. What do you mean by starting a new sect and agreeing with previous one? Examples? Don't state a fact until you have an example to be ready at your disposal.

third, the term "Christian" was created as an insult to the people who followed Christ and litterly means "Jesus Freak." The romans saw this group of people praising this man, in the same sense that cult followers praise their cult leaders, and inevitably eliminated the leader. Romans saw Jesus in the same sense of how the American public looked at Charles Manson in the 60s or David Koresh in the early 90s.

I've never heard of that explanation of the origin for the word "Christian". I could've sworn that it was derived from "Christ"...ut: Yes, that's exactly what Romans thought...then again, they were a pagan society against every religion.

fourth, yes irresponsible sex is not a game, yet when birth control is added to the equation, it is a fun, loving act of passion (or just fun too). The reason Christianity only supported sex within marriage was because it was a form of social control.

I agree, sex isn't a game. I don't agree that when you use birth control it can be "fun". And you have no clue what you're talking about when you say that "Christianity only supported sex within marriage was because it was a form of social control." They actually supported sex within marriage because it CAN be the most holy, most satisfying thing on earth. In fact, the closest thing to Heaven. Also, because God says it in the Bible. What the hell do you mean by "form of social control"? That doesn't even make sense.

Children are incredibly vulnerable to such fantastic ideas such as God, in the same way children love unicorns, fairies and a giant red dog named Clifford. Tell a child anything and they'll believe it. One of the first lessons of adulthood is to never believe everything you are told, yet many people are unfortunate to learn that vital step.

No, it's not the same. There isn't a religion called "Unicornism" or "Cliffordism", the ideas of these objects weren't created since the beginning of time, and since you don't believe in Creation, since around 5,000 years ago. Christianity is in a totally different category. You may be a "I can't see it, so I won't believe it" person, which is why you're an atheist, you need the facts; but, Christianity makes since, it fits in with the current problems of the world no matter what the date of the world is. It's always relevant.

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[Canvas]

Where does it say he was a part of Judaism? Christianity is not a cult. >_<

Jesus was a jew, come on that's a given. Christianity as a religion/cult didn't exist the moment of his birth.

No, actually, by calling myself a Christian i'm saying that I believe everything in the Bible, I try to follow the Ten Commandments, I pray and worship the One and Holy God, among other things. What do you mean by starting a new sect and agreeing with previous one? Examples? Don't state a fact until you have an example to be ready at your disposal.

Lets see, we have the Church of England, Episcopalian, Baptism, Catholism, Islam, and many more.

I've never heard of that explanation of the origin for the word "Christian". I could've sworn that it was derived from "Christ"...ut: Yes, that's exactly what Romans thought...then again, they were a pagan society against every religion.

of course its derived from the word Christ, thats what I said. the term Christ Freak is a rough translation, but pretty accurate. Keep in mind, other than the religious backdrop that our recent religious presidents have placed, we mimic the roman society more than any other. In many ways, America is the new Rome.

I agree, sex isn't a game. I don't agree that when you use birth control it can be "fun". And you have no clue what you're talking about when you say that "Christianity only supported sex within marriage was because it was a form of social control." They actually supported sex within marriage because it CAN be the most holy, most satisfying thing on earth. In fact, the closest thing to Heaven. Also, because God says it in the Bible. What the hell do you mean by "form of social control"? That doesn't even make sense.

Oh it makes perfect sense. The roman counterpart to the christian marriage was single, often bisexual, ways of the population. The idea of social control is simple. If you make both parents believe in Christianity, then all their offspring are forced to lead the ways of the christian mindset creating later generations to have the same mindset as the parents. Christianity was the ultimate deviation in roman times, yet soon became the primary religion because of this social control. In many ways it was genius. By calling most of the natural attractions of humanity "sins," Christianity was able to form strict rules and regulations to the populous because of this newly installed idea that what they were doing was "wrong." Remember, what the creators of Christianity wanted was the make the world believe in what they thought was right. Also, people of the time of Christ were incredibly gullible and were known for doing some very irrational things.

No, it's not the same. There isn't a religion called "Unicornism" or "Cliffordism", the ideas of these objects weren't created since the beginning of time, and since you don't believe in Creation, since around 5,000 years ago. Christianity is in a totally different category. You may be a "I can't see it, so I won't believe it" person, which is why you're an atheist, you need the facts; but, Christianity makes since, it fits in with the current problems of the world no matter what the date of the world is. It's always relevant.

Infact, there is a religion called Unicornism, but that's irrelevant. You aren't allowing yourself to see the big picture and what you said makes little to no sense. From my understanding, are you saying that the idea of God was created at the creation of everything? If so, that is dead wrong. The idea of God was the imagination of man to fill in the gaps of understanding the inner workings of our universe. When someone couldn't explain something, it was God's doing. That is where the idea of God was born. Just because you are affiliated with it doesn't disassociate it from other imaginary ideas.

Christianity is "always relevant" because of how vague it is, and everything that is obvious has either been taken out or edited to fit the time. The only reason its relevant is because it is made to be relevant. One of the earliest versions of the bible has a section where Jesus is said to have relations with a young boy, but that was edited out around 300 AC.

I became an atheist not for that lame quote you stated. I believe that there is air, and gravity but I don't see it. I believe in science over all, that is all.

 

[Canvas]

Hey man, I just realized you are only 14, so I applauded you for being critical and willing to stand up for yourself.

 

[Axtlar]

Yeah don't be abusive to 14 year olds

 

[ssbb_lover]

Where does it say he was a part of Judaism? Christianity is not a cult. >_<

Jesus was a jew, come on that's a given. Christianity as a religion/cult didn't exist the moment of his birth.

No, actually, by calling myself a Christian i'm saying that I believe everything in the Bible, I try to follow the Ten Commandments, I pray and worship the One and Holy God, among other things. What do you mean by starting a new sect and agreeing with previous one? Examples? Don't state a fact until you have an example to be ready at your disposal.

Lets see, we have the Church of England, Episcopalian, Baptism, Catholism, Islam, and many more.

I've never heard of that explanation of the origin for the word "Christian". I could've sworn that it was derived from "Christ"...ut: Yes, that's exactly what Romans thought...then again, they were a pagan society against every religion.

of course its derived from the word Christ, thats what I said. the term Christ Freak is a rough translation, but pretty accurate. Keep in mind, other than the religious backdrop that our recent religious presidents have placed, we mimic the roman society more than any other. In many ways, America is the new Rome.

I agree, sex isn't a game. I don't agree that when you use birth control it can be "fun". And you have no clue what you're talking about when you say that "Christianity only supported sex within marriage was because it was a form of social control." They actually supported sex within marriage because it CAN be the most holy, most satisfying thing on earth. In fact, the closest thing to Heaven. Also, because God says it in the Bible. What the hell do you mean by "form of social control"? That doesn't even make sense.

Oh it makes perfect sense. The roman counterpart to the christian marriage was single, often bisexual, ways of the population. The idea of social control is simple. If you make both parents believe in Christianity, then all their offspring are forced to lead the ways of the christian mindset creating later generations to have the same mindset as the parents. Christianity was the ultimate deviation in roman times, yet soon became the primary religion because of this social control. In many ways it was genius. By calling most of the natural attractions of humanity "sins," Christianity was able to form strict rules and regulations to the populous because of this newly installed idea that what they were doing was "wrong." Remember, what the creators of Christianity wanted was the make the world believe in what they thought was right. Also, people of the time of Christ were incredibly gullible and were known for doing some very irrational things.

No, it's not the same. There isn't a religion called "Unicornism" or "Cliffordism", the ideas of these objects weren't created since the beginning of time, and since you don't believe in Creation, since around 5,000 years ago. Christianity is in a totally different category. You may be a "I can't see it, so I won't believe it" person, which is why you're an atheist, you need the facts; but, Christianity makes since, it fits in with the current problems of the world no matter what the date of the world is. It's always relevant.

Infact, there is a religion called Unicornism, but that's irrelevant. You aren't allowing yourself to see the big picture and what you said makes little to no sense. From my understanding, are you saying that the idea of God was created at the creation of everything? If so, that is dead wrong. The idea of God was the imagination of man to fill in the gaps of understanding the inner workings of our universe. When someone couldn't explain something, it was God's doing. That is where the idea of God was born. Just because you are affiliated with it doesn't disassociate it from other imaginary ideas.

Christianity is "always relevant" because of how vague it is, and everything that is obvious has either been taken out or edited to fit the time. The only reason its relevant is because it is made to be relevant. One of the earliest versions of the bible has a section where Jesus is said to have relations with a young boy, but that was edited out around 300 AC.

I became an atheist not for that lame quote you stated. I believe that there is air, and gravity but I don't see it. I believe in science over all, that is all.

I respect that post, you weren't stupid or ignorant throughout the whole thing. Before I break it down, I just wanna say that in my previous post that you quoted (as well as this next post), I wasn't stating any of that in an, "I know this for a matter of fact, duh I know everything" kind of way. I know I have a lot to learn, and I like debating things like this.

Jesus was a jew, come on that's a given. Christianity as a religion/cult didn't exist the moment of his birth.

Yes, he was a Jew. It doesn't mean he believed in Judaism. Just like the Germans thought the Jews were an inferior race, lo and behold he Holocaust. Just because they were born a Jew in a Culture of a white, different language race doesn't make them inferior.

Lets see, we have the Church of England, Episcopalian, Baptism, Catholism, Islam, and many more.

That was my bad there, I just wasn't making sense of what you had meant by 'sects' (yes I know what the word means ) at the time. But all of that happened indirectly of the faith that Jesus begun. Each of those sects took a little bit of what Jesus spoke as truth, then made their own junk.

of course its derived from the word Christ, thats what I said. the term Christ Freak is a rough translation, but pretty accurate. Keep in mind, other than the religious backdrop that our recent religious presidents have placed, we mimic the roman society more than any other. In many ways, America is the new Rome.

I agree, America has taken our governmental structure (and I know many other things) from Rome. Hell, our whole language is derived from Latin, the language of the Romans. The only difference is, America was founded on a Christian basis, where as Rome was founded on a pagan one. Now look at the difference between the two, America is now the most strong military force in the world, the most free country, etc.; Rome is where you visit as an ancient landsite, because it fell into ruin.

Just to go a little off topic of what we're talking about, America was built up, won crucial wars (against practically all odds) when America was built around the faith of Christianity. Now our society (IMO) is falling apart, and guess what, Christianity is rapidly declining while religions such as Wikka (witchcraft) are the fastest growing in the country.

(I still don't agree with the "Christ FREAK" thing...sounds a bit too rough a translation for me.

Oh it makes perfect sense. The roman counterpart to the christian marriage was single, often bisexual, ways of the population. The idea of social control is simple. If you make both parents believe in Christianity, then all their offspring are forced to lead the ways of the christian mindset creating later generations to have the same mindset as the parents. Christianity was the ultimate deviation in roman times, yet soon became the primary religion because of this social control. In many ways it was genius. By calling most of the natural attractions of humanity "sins," Christianity was able to form strict rules and regulations to the populous because of this newly installed idea that what they were doing was "wrong." Remember, what the creators of Christianity wanted was the make the world believe in what they thought was right. Also, people of the time of Christ were incredibly gullible and were known for doing some very irrational things.

I don't know how you can treat Christianity and Roman culture as-one and-one (Romans fed Christians to the lions, men, women and children alike). Like I've said; Rome = pagan basis. I get what you mean now, how Christianity could be seen as a means of control, but it's not. It's just...not. Christianity was founded at the beginning of forever, since eternity. It has, it is, it will be. Jesus says, "I am." Forever past, present and future. This religion was not created to control society. Again, an example of something irrational?

Infact, there is a religion called Unicornism, but that's irrelevant. You aren't allowing yourself to see the big picture and what you said makes little to no sense. From my understanding, are you saying that the idea of God was created at the creation of everything? If so, that is dead wrong. The idea of God was the imagination of man to fill in the gaps of understanding the inner workings of our universe. When someone couldn't explain something, it was God's doing. That is where the idea of God was born. Just because you are affiliated with it doesn't disassociate it from other imaginary ideas.

Christianity is "always relevant" because of how vague it is, and everything that is obvious has either been taken out or edited to fit the time. The only reason its relevant is because it is made to be relevant. One of the earliest versions of the bible has a section where Jesus is said to have relations with a young boy, but that was edited out around 300 AC.

I want dissect this more than I am! I have to go to bed though...

I already stated what I believe Christianity is and its origins.

When someone couldn't figure something out, couldn't explain something etc. and claimed it was a god...that'd be the Greeks. Not the true Christians, just like current times, their were those who claimed they were Christian but weren't.

I became an atheist not for that lame quote you stated. I believe that there is air, and gravity but I don't see it. I believe in science over all, that is all.

No, but you do feel and experience it which is practically the same thing.