Ridley in Brawl.

[sorabrawl]

Dark Samus would be a clone wouldn't it (never played metroid properly)

 

[Shoko]

Dark Samus isn't really a staple in the Metroid Series. Yes, she's the main antagonist in the Metroid Prime series, but Ridley has been there since the beginning. That, and Ridley is much more developed as a character.

He's the reason Samus has her suit.

The fact that Ridley's been there forever isn't a valid arguement for him being in Brawl. It's actually kinda the other way around: The newer characters/things should be in. Mostly everything is Brawl is from Wii or GameCube games, not NES. The TP models, the items, the stages, they're all from Wii and GameCube games. See where I'm getting at? All because he's a Nintendo veteran dosen't mean he's the most deserving.

Here's a perfect example: Daisy was really the first Princess in the Mario Series. But they still put Peach in instead and Daisy's not in Brawl. They dropped Daisy. Out with the old and in with the new.

Now, I'm not saying he CAN'T be in, I'm just saying that him being old dosen't mean anything.

 

[Vdogam3r]

I thought Peach was first!
In donkey kong: Mario had to save PAULINE!
Then it went to Super Mario Bros.-PEACH

 

[CyanRussel]

Oh...this thread has finally had ppl posting on it....AFTER MONTHS!!!

I still stand by saying Ridley cant be or can be in brawl....i dont remember what i said about Ridley..."dont feel like going back the pages to look for what i said...TOO LAZY" So i have no say in this..

 

[CyanRussel]

Oh...this thread has finally had ppl posting on it....AFTER MONTHS!!!

I still stand by saying Ridley cant be or can be in brawl....i dont remember what i said about Ridley..."dont feel like going back the pages to look for what i said...TOO LAZY" So i have no say in this..

 

[AtomicB]

The fact that Ridley's been there forever isn't a valid arguement for him being in Brawl. It's actually kinda the other way around: The newer characters/things should be in. Mostly everything is Brawl is from Wii or GameCube games, not NES. The TP models, the items, the stages, they're all from Wii and GameCube games. See where I'm getting at? All because he's a Nintendo veteran dosen't mean he's the most deserving.

Here's a perfect example: Daisy was really the first Princess in the Mario Series. But they still put Peach in instead and Daisy's not in Brawl. They dropped Daisy. Out with the old and in with the new.

Now, I'm not saying he CAN'T be in, I'm just saying that him being old dosen't mean anything.

Brawl is about Nintendo's All-Stars.

Peach didn't get in because she was newer, she got in because she was the bigger of the two. Daisy has long been ditched, but Peach had been in almost every Mario game since Super Mario Bros.

Ridley is almost the same, but it's a different scenario.

While Dark Samus has since become the main antagonist of the Metroid Prime series (And it's just that. Only the prime series.) Ridley has still appeared in almost every Metroid game.

Brawl isn't out with the old, in with the new.
It's in with the Stars. It isn't about Nintendo's new IP's coming in, it's about all of Nintendo's stars.

And Ridley also has a very recent design.
He was in Prime 3. Heck, he was in Prime 3 twice!

His character isn't something stuck in the past like Pit. He's been moving right along with Samus in time. Just like Mario started on the NES but is still a modern character.

I'm not saying Ridley will be in. Heck, if you go back in this thread, you'll find me arguing against Ridley! I was deadly opposed to him, but after Olimar came in, my best argument against Ridley was thrashed.

So, all I'm saying is Ridley is much more likely than you might think. (He also scored high in the polls.

 

[ssbb_lover]

The fact that Ridley's been there forever isn't a valid arguement for him being in Brawl. It's actually kinda the other way around: The newer characters/things should be in. Mostly everything is Brawl is from Wii or GameCube games, not NES. The TP models, the items, the stages, they're all from Wii and GameCube games. See where I'm getting at? All because he's a Nintendo veteran dosen't mean he's the most deserving.

Wii and Gamecube games, OK...Ridley has been on both of those consoles.

Here's a perfect example: Daisy was really the first Princess in the Mario Series. But they still put Peach in instead and Daisy's not in Brawl. They dropped Daisy. Out with the old and in with the new.

No, like Atomic said, she didn't get in because she was the newest and most familiar of the two, is was because Peach played a much more prominent role then her counterpart, Daisy.

Now, I'm not saying he CAN'T be in, I'm just saying that him being old dosen't mean anything.

Him being old doesn't necessarily mean anything, no. Being a main protagonist that reoccurs nearly every game in a huge franchise, does.


Atomic, I agree totally, but what did you mean by this?

I was deadly opposed to him, but after Olimar came in, my best argument against Ridley was thrashed.

What point are you talking about exactly? (and nice new sig ;])

 

[Shoko]

Brawl is about Nintendo's All-Stars.

Peach didn't get in because she was newer, she got in because she was the bigger of the two. Daisy has long been ditched, but Peach had been in almost every Mario game since Super Mario Bros.

Ridley is almost the same, but it's a different scenario.

While Dark Samus has since become the main antagonist of the Metroid Prime series (And it's just that. Only the prime series.) Ridley has still appeared in almost every Metroid game.

Brawl isn't out with the old, in with the new.
It's in with the Stars. It isn't about Nintendo's new IP's coming in, it's about all of Nintendo's stars.

And Ridley also has a very recent design.
He was in Prime 3. Heck, he was in Prime 3 twice!

His character isn't something stuck in the past like Pit. He's been moving right along with Samus in time. Just like Mario started on the NES but is still a modern character.

I'm not saying Ridley will be in. Heck, if you go back in this thread, you'll find me arguing against Ridley! I was deadly opposed to him, but after Olimar came in, my best argument against Ridley was thrashed.

So, all I'm saying is Ridley is much more likely than you might think. (He also scored high in the polls.

^I know he's not a char stuck in the past. I was just talking about that past stuff cause one of your arguements was that he's been in Metroid for a long time. And look at what you said about him having his newest model in Corruption. the fact that they would use Corruption Ridley would mean that Ridley would be too big, you gotta admit. And yes, they would use Corruption Ridley cause everything else is Wii versions really, (Wario, Link, Zelda, even sheik and he hasnt even been on a Wii game, but they still gave him a Wii/TP model. Some of you say he could be in simply cause your hardcore Metroid fans, but don't let that factor mess up your judgement. I mean, I'm one too, I love Ridley, but he simply wouldn't cut it for Brawl. (He may be in, but I'm just listing reasons why he wouldn't.

Put it all together: They would use Corruption Ridley- Corruption Ridley is huge- too huge for Brawl.

 

[AtomicB]

Wii and Gamecube games, OK...Ridley has been on both of those consoles.

No, like Atomic said, she didn't get in because she was the newest and most familiar of the two, is was because Peach played a much more prominent role then her counterpart, Daisy.

Him being old doesn't necessarily mean anything, no. Being a main protagonist that reoccurs nearly every game in a huge franchise, does.


Atomic, I agree totally, but what did you mean by this?

What point are you talking about exactly? (and nice new sig ;])

Thanks, good points, too.

What I mean is that my argument was that size mattered, and if they resized Ridley it would be far to dramatic.

But than Olimar got in, who is, according to the game manual, literally the size of a quarter.

Smash bros. Brawl is a fan service, and if Ridley is what the fans want, Ridley is what the fans get.

 

[ssbb_lover]

...But, he doesn't HAVE to. There's no law saying, "You must use the most current model of this character or not put him in at all." If Sakurai truly wanted to implement him into the game, he could simply use a past model.

For clarification, I'm not saying "HEZ GONNA BE A CHAR IN BRAWL AND DERZ NUTIN U CAN DEW." I think he has a high, high chance of being in Brawl, and I believe that he SHOULD be in Brawl.

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@ Atomic: I see, that's interesting. I was wondering why I haven't been getting the "HEZ TOO BIG" argument lately...till Shoko asked it.

 

[Shoko]

...But, he doesn't HAVE to. There's no law saying, "You must use the most current model of this character or not put him in at all." If Sakurai truly wanted to implement him into the game, he could simply use a past model.

For clarification, I'm not saying "HEZ GONNA BE A CHAR IN BRAWL AND DERZ NUTIN U CAN DEW." I think he has a high, high chance of being in Brawl, and I believe that he SHOULD be in Brawl.

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@ Atomic: I see, that's interesting. I was wondering why I haven't been getting the "HEZ TOO BIG" argument lately...till Shoko asked it.

Yea, they don't HAVE to use the most current model, but what I'm saying is is that they WOULD use the most current model. You gotta admit, it only makes sense.

 

[Shoko]

^I know that they don't HAVE to use the latest model, but my point is that they WOULD use the latest model. It only makes sense

 

[AtomicB]

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Diddy Kong(4) - CONFIRMED!
Geno(4)
Ike(4) - CONFIRMED!
Ridley(4)
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3) - CONFIRMED!
Krystal(3)
Takamaru(3)
Windwaker Link(3)
Animal Crossing MC(2) - in BG of Smashville stage
Claus(2)
Demiru(2)
Isaac(2)
Jeff(2)
Kawasima(2)
King K.Rool(2)
Lip(2)
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Oguma(2)
Ouendan(2)
Sukapon(2)

Source:

Ridley is one of the high-tiers. All I'm saying is that's it's super-ultra-mega possible.

 

[AtomicB]

(Double Posted... =.='` Sorry, I expected someone to reply by the time I finished...)

^I know that they don't HAVE to use the latest model, but my point is that they WOULD use the latest model. It only makes sense

Not exactly. They didn't use Galaxy Bowser, Prime 3 Samus, or even the newest Pokemon Trainer.

But does it really matter what model they use?

 

[Shoko]

Not exactly. They didn't use Galaxy Bowser, Prime 3 Samus, or even the newest Pokemon Trainer.

But does it really matter what model they use?

^There was no point of using the Galaxy Bowser. That one was just as big as the 64 and they didn't even use him. That's why they didn't use Galaxy Bowser. Plus, they wouldn't be able to use him anyways cause that one was like just as big as Giga Bowser. So what would happen if the Galaxy Bowser grabbed the Smash Ball? He would take up the whole screen, that's what would happen.

as for your samus statement: The orange power suit made an appearence in MP3 so they could use that one as well.

and yes, the models do matter because models= Moves, looks, and size.