Why do you guys hate so much

[Sovieto]

Yes the control styles are totally different, on the PC aiming is far superior. I played BF2 on my 360 when I had one and I wasn't too impressed. The controls were rather annoying and not to mention aiming on a console within a FPS just isn't that fun to do, and an annoyance in my opinion.

There were some good FPS on consoles, aka perfect dark, goldeneye and perfect dark zero to name a few, but they could have been better using a real control scheme.

i pefer console controls, for the PC its more: if your good at one FPS your good at most, consoles provide variety and its harder to get the best shots for its not so percise, console is just more pure fun imo

 

[acphydro]

i pefer console controls, for the PC its more: if your good at one FPS your good at most, consoles provide variety and its harder to get the best shots for its not so percise, console is just more pure fun imo

You have no idea how wrong that statement is. I can own someone in half life deathmatch or half life 2 deathmatch and that same person if they play counterstrike or etc can own me on it. Weapons are different, maps/levels are different, and what your character can do is totally different. Unreal Tournament is totally different from Half-Life. A totally different experience if playing online especially.

Same way with the console shooters. The basic idea of controls is all the same, but the game controls behave a lot differently as well as the fact of different physics, weapons, and the like. Yes I agree that its harder on a console to get a better shot, but thats what makes it more real on the PC is you can have the aiming of a sharpshooter. Thats why most console games have some kind of aiming assistance built into them. As far as variety on consoles, it doesn't exist on or near the same scale as the PC games are on.

 

[Sovieto]

well i know my comment was off, no clue what i was takling about
but i dont think being a sharpshooter is more life like...now thats your off statement =P life isnt strafing around in circles knowing your shots always go where you want them to (in the middle of the screen) with pinpoint accuracy everytime

 

[El Jefe]

You have no idea how wrong that statement is. I can own someone in half life deathmatch or half life 2 deathmatch and that same person if they play counterstrike or etc can own me on it. Weapons are different, maps/levels are different, and what your character can do is totally different. Unreal Tournament is totally different from Half-Life. A totally different experience if playing online especially.

Same way with the console shooters. The basic idea of controls is all the same, but the game controls behave a lot differently as well as the fact of different physics, weapons, and the like. Yes I agree that its harder on a console to get a better shot, but thats what makes it more real on the PC is you can have the aiming of a sharpshooter. Thats why most console games have some kind of aiming assistance built into them. As far as variety on consoles, it doesn't exist on or near the same scale as the PC games are on.

Believe it or not, some people swear by console shooters. I will never understand this. It took one of my friends over 3 years to understand the PC's advantage. This happened when Half-Life 2 came out on XBox. They played it, and he came over telling me all about this wonderful game called Half-Life 2. So I started up my PC version, and within 3 minutes (waiting on the loading screen) He waas blown away. He's been coming over every weekend for a month straight now, just playing the hell out of Half-Life 2. He convinced the person who bought it on XBox to just sell it. It doesn't even compare. In terms of graphics, control, and replay. Console's controls are just too sluggish. Even if you turn up the sensitivity to help your guy turn faster, that just makes aiming harder. FPS should've never ventured into consoles. Remember when people were talking about 007 on N64 like it was a god send? Well I was playing Quake 2, and Half-Life 1 when that game came out. People need to pay more attention to what's been on PC for years before they mention a console FPS being any good at all.

 

[Wii&Ps3]

I feel that many of the games were indeed [targeted] for a younger audience, but not on as much of a ratio as you may think. The PS3 is following the footsteps of the Sega Dreamcast. Nintendo is actually appealing to everyone in general this time around. Especially since there is actual interactivity on their system, something microsoft didn't try to implement, and something sony tried to copy but got it way wrong.

But even if I did believe you were 24 and wanted to use a real weapon, its hard to overlook the fact that you can't handle FPS games on a PC. Don't know if maybe they are too graphic, too violent or just show way too many details or not. But you can't really call yourself a FPS fan if you are playing generic shooters on consoles such as the PS3 or xbox360. Further, if you really like realism then you would be playing on the PC as it has the most detailed graphics you'll ever see. So you are essentially contradicting yourself here son. :thumbsup:

Im not much of a fps fan. The only game Ive liked is resistance. Halo was boring, and I havent played gow yet for the 360.

If I wanted to be a loser I would buy a $3,000 computer to play crysis. Then in a year I would drop another $3,000 because my last computer is so outdated it will barely even be able to burn a cd. Thats sounds like a real way to play video games :lol: I would rather just buy a console and enjoy it for its entire lifespan without ever having to worry about upgrading anything. Plus the consoles actually have good games :ciappa:

You say sony got the controller wrong, but the controller has no lag what-so-ever. When I move to the left it goes to the left as im doing it. The wii cursor lags behind quite a bit. PLus all the twitching is kind of annoying. You would think nintendo would have addressed that before it was released. PLus I enjoy being able to charge my controller and not having to buy batteries for it every other week. Yep sony sure did theirs wrong.

 

[El Jefe]

Im not much of a fps fan. The only game Ive liked is resistance. Halo was boring, and I havent played gow yet for the 360.

If I wanted to be a loser I would buy a $3,000 computer to play crysis. Then in a year I would drop another $3,000 because my last computer is so outdated it will barely even be able to burn a cd. Thats sounds like a real way to play video games :lol: I would rather just buy a console and enjoy it for its entire lifespan without ever having to worry about upgrading anything. Plus the consoles actually have good games :ciappa:

You say sony got the controller wrong, but the controller has no lag what-so-ever. When I move to the left it goes to the left as im doing it. The wii cursor lags behind quite a bit. PLus all the twitching is kind of annoying. You would think nintendo would have addressed that before it was released. PLus I enjoy being able to charge my controller and not having to buy batteries for it every other week. Yep sony sure did theirs wrong.

1 the twitch is because you're standing too far away from your TV, or you've been smokin the crack so your hand shakes. 2 why would you buy a $3,000 computer, then turn around and buy another one a year later? Where are you buying these expensive computers that are so inferior that you have to buy one every year? You don't understand how computers work do you? I bought mine almost 3 years ago for $400, and have updated the Video card once. $150 that's it. And it plays Half-Life 2 and F.E.A.R. at 60fps at 1280x960 (Much higher than a 1080p HD TV. Know what you're talkin about before you start bitchin about it)

 

[Sovieto]

Believe it or not, some people swear by console shooters. I will never understand this. It took one of my friends over 3 years to understand the PC's advantage. This happened when Half-Life 2 came out on XBox. They played it, and he came over telling me all about this wonderful game called Half-Life 2. So I started up my PC version, and within 3 minutes (waiting on the loading screen) He waas blown away. He's been coming over every weekend for a month straight now, just playing the hell out of Half-Life 2. He convinced the person who bought it on XBox to just sell it. It doesn't even compare. In terms of graphics, control, and replay. Console's controls are just too sluggish. Even if you turn up the sensitivity to help your guy turn faster, that just makes aiming harder. FPS should've never ventured into consoles. Remember when people were talking about 007 on N64 like it was a god send? Well I was playing Quake 2, and Half-Life 1 when that game came out. People need to pay more attention to what's been on PC for years before they mention a console FPS being any good at all.

Well your talking about a port, Half Life was intended for PC.

p.s. i use to be a PC FPS person but once i got my 360 switched over to console (yes i have steam)

 

[El Jefe]

i pefer FPSs on consoles over computers, they are completely different control styles, bf2 is on 360, just saying

Ever seen the wireless rumblepad logictech made for computer? It's a clone of a PS2 controller, and one of my favorite controllers ever made. Plug that into your computer and you've got the exact same control you'd have on a PS3 only the graphics are better, and load times are shorter, and lot's more people to play against online. Can't use a console's controls as a motive because the PC has over 200 different controllers you can buy. No contest... PC all the way. Wii has something PC hasn't even touched yet. That's why I bought it. Don't need a 360 or PS3, I've got a computer. To quote another member from here.

 

[acphydro]

well i know my comment was off, no clue what i was takling about
but i dont think being a sharpshooter is more life like...now thats your off statement =P life isnt strafing around in circles knowing your shots always go where you want them to (in the middle of the screen) with pinpoint accuracy everytime

It's ok man. The ability to have more control over your aiming makes it more realistic.

 

[acphydro]

Ever seen the wireless rumblepad logictech made for computer? It's a clone of a PS2 controller, and one of my favorite controllers ever made. Plug that into your computer and you've got the exact same control you'd have on a PS3 only the graphics are better, and load times are shorter, and lot's more people to play against online. Can't use a console's controls as a motive because the PC has over 200 different controllers you can buy. No contest... PC all the way. Wii has something PC hasn't even touched yet. That's why I bought it. Don't need a 360 or PS3, I've got a computer. To quote another member from here.

Very Well said. The PC does indeed have hundreds of controllers. Not to mention the fact that xbox360 controllers also work on PCs.

 

[Sovieto]

It's ok man. The ability to have more control over your aiming makes it more realistic.

i honestly dont think thats accurate...

and even if you play with a pad you will most likley get owned by mouse+keyboard

 

[acphydro]

Im not much of a fps fan. The only game Ive liked is resistance. Halo was boring, and I havent played gow yet for the 360.

If I wanted to be a loser I would buy a $3,000 computer to play crysis. Then in a year I would drop another $3,000 because my last computer is so outdated it will barely even be able to burn a cd. Thats sounds like a real way to play video games :lol: I would rather just buy a console and enjoy it for its entire lifespan without ever having to worry about upgrading anything. Plus the consoles actually have good games :ciappa:

You say sony got the controller wrong, but the controller has no lag what-so-ever. When I move to the left it goes to the left as im doing it. The wii cursor lags behind quite a bit. PLus all the twitching is kind of annoying. You would think nintendo would have addressed that before it was released. PLus I enjoy being able to charge my controller and not having to buy batteries for it every other week. Yep sony sure did theirs wrong.

I played Resistance for a little while when my cousin was over and yeah it look decent and all but it was just common ground already treaded by many PC games already. To build my current PC would cost you around say $1100 and it'll fly through Crysis without any problems. It'll play any game I want it to great. Even if it couldn't play the games at HIGH settings it would still look a hell of a lot better than a PS3 game, or any other console running the same game at even low to medium settings.

I built a main PC so many years ago and dump on average into it around $300 every year or two. Why? I don't just play games on it, I buy storage space to store videos, buy new stuff to overclock with and mess with or etc. I can do much more with a PC than a PS3 will ever be able to do and on top of all that it blows the PS3 out of the water when it comes to games and graphics.

Their controller TRIED to include motion sensing technology but its just a poor choice. Rumble is last gen? Give me a break. Rumble is more realistic than tilting the controller a little to "get loose". There's a lot more too rumble than that obviously I'll let you try to think about what it does and why Sony made a poor choice saying it was last gen and forgetting to include it. The Wii's controller doesn't lag and isn't jittery at all, maybe you just dont have setup right? It works flawlessly for me. I can't remember the last time I changed the batteries in it. My Energizer Lithiums are cheap and last for hours and hours, weeks, probably months.

Granted rechargables are nice, kudos to Sony and Microsoft for that, but its not REALLY that necessary. Thats about the only thing they did right on their PS3. They need support, games, and a fan base. I will buy one for Final Fantasy XIII. What if 500k people that bought their PS3 bought it to play Final Fantasy XIII? Doesn't mean they like the system or even wanted it. I can see Square-Enix moving back to Nintendo after XIII seeing how big of a flop the PS3 was and is.

 

[acphydro]

i honestly dont think thats accurate...

and even if you play with a pad you will most likley get owned by mouse+keyboard

If you're that good you should be able to compete. I used to suck at using the mouse keyboard combo but now I am accustomed to it. I played Goldeneye 007 before I played my first PC FPS and I loved it. I still do love Goldeneye, but it cant compete, at least for me, with a keyboard/mouse combo.

But yeah, a mouse is much more accurate for aiming, especially regarding sensitivity and free look-around. The keyboard allows you a ton of options to layout your moves/controls and even allows you to create your own in many FPS games for PC.

Either way the idea is to have fun. Have fun doin your thing and I'll have fun doin mine.

 

[Sovieto]

If you're that good you should be able to compete. I used to suck at using the mouse keyboard combo but now I am accustomed to it. I played Goldeneye 007 before I played my first PC FPS and I loved it. I still do love Goldeneye, but it cant compete, at least for me, with a keyboard/mouse combo.

But yeah, a mouse is much more accurate for aiming, especially regarding sensitivity and free look-around. The keyboard allows you a ton of options to layout your moves/controls and even allows you to create your own in many FPS games for PC.

Either way the idea is to have fun. Have fun doin your thing and I'll have fun doin mine.

Quote for Maturity and Ending a debate that would have gone on...forever.

 

[Brawny]

Ha, I'll get it going again. I prefer PC FPS because of the mouse but think of playing a FPS with the mouse and a Nunchuck. That would be sweet.