Your opinion of guns

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Brawny said:
So it's the difficulty of acquiring one that worries you? I like the licensing needed for handguns, but banning everything like many of you propose is just retarded.

And if my wages determine my doting on my wife, then yes!

...By treating me to fast food? You're too kind!

No, the being shot thing worries me, I like that hardly anyone can get ahold of one here, and you should only have them if you're in a position of authority, and even then you're restricted, any idiot can get into the police, it's quite sad, but not many of them get to be armed officers, that takes work.

Tasers, fine!

Everyone should just carry tranquilisers. xD
 
We Americans like our justice done the old fashioned way. Didn't one state allow the victims' family to press the injection button or something once?
 
I'm a gun owner born and raised that way, well over 15 of them in my gun safe right now. But with that also came responsability. Although it wasn't required at the time my dad made me take a Gun safety course.

Now in my area you can own any gun "made" for hunting when your 18 I believe it still is. This is a Shotgun,Rifle. Not something you would stick up a store with it would be pretty obvious at 4 feet long :lol:

Now for any handgun you have to be 21 to purchase it and go through a background check to get it. No criminal records or anything like the sort will let you legally obtaine one.

For a "concelead weapons permit " you can carry it in public hidden" you need to go through plenty to obtaine it and keep it. They pretty much force you to be the most responsibal gun owner or will not let you have this type of license.

Assualt " full automatic" type weapons you need very special permits and are very hard to obtain. Usually would have to be a historian or collector to ever have this type of gun in your possesion. With good reason unless your an enthusiast there is no reason to have this type of weapon for target practice,hunting, or protection!

Now these laws pretty much rule out any one not old enough to use a gun to be able get there hands on it so they are cool by me. Now you can be as young as 12 years old and go hunting or use a gun but MUST be in the accompany of a licensed adult.They must also go through Hunter/Gun safety course before allowd to use a gun.

The Main problem is gun safety knowledge. I think everyone should go through a gun safety course no matter what the age before they are even allowed to own a gun. More Accidents happen with guns because of dumb handling than anything. It['s the Same thign for Drivers license. If a kid is 16 and driving they have to go through driver safety, Yet at 18 without any experience they will hand over a license no questions asked. I see a Flaw in this type of system. You can't just assume adults are going to know better.

As for Crimes and effecting crime rates. Bad argument. If a criminal wants a gun they will get a gun legal or not! Even when there are no guns in the country Criminals will get them if they really need/want them. So your not getting rid of the criminal aspect of guns ever. If there is a black market it will be supplied.

We just need to make the everyday person who wants a gun for whatever reason target,hunting,protection to be responsibal and knowledgeable about it! And we need to continue to put the criminals behind bars and find better ways at keeping guns out of there hands. Be it harsher penalties for gun crimes or whatever.
 
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The U.S is in desperate need of new gun laws. We can see the affect of the present laws with Columbine, Virgina Tech., and countless other shootings. The fact you can buy a handgun at the same place where you can buy your jeans scares me. I don't have anything against guns, I own a single barrel 12 gauge. Only used it once, and I was shooting at a barrel for fun. My dad goes hunting once every now and then, only because he wants to have true natural meat instead of meat packed with hormones and etc. And I can't take the guilt of killing something, I killed a squirrel once with my 22. and I felt horrible about it. So all I use my guns for is target practice, and the unlikely self defense.
 
Byuakuya said:
I personally think that guns should not be allowed in the hands of anyone who is not in a position of authority, or else everything will simply get out of hand.
The problem is, the ratio of people "in a position of authority" and regular citizens is incredibly high. Not to mention the distance involved. While certainly one can appreciate having a professional lawkeeper whenever possible, sometimes it's just not. People deserve the right to protect themselves and not have to be utterly dependent on the 1-cop-per-10,000-citizens available.

Just because hospitals exist, we still encourage people to not only learn first-aid but CPR as well. In fact, the more they learn the better. Why? Because emergency situations happen when waiting for the trained professionals can just be too long and mean the difference between life and death.
 
AndThen? said:
My cousin found his dad's gun once (they're farmers so they can have one). Boom. He's paraplegic now. So excuuuuse me if I don't approve of guns. He was lucky, too.
So it's the gun's fault?

Why wasn't the gun kept locked-up? Irresponsible parents.

Why wasn't the kid raised to respect guns as dangerous (like knives or the stoves), instead of being insulated from them so he didn't know what to do when he found one? Fault there lies on the parents again, but somewhat on your cousin as well.

What happened to your cousin is a tragedy, but you're treating it akin to a situation where a drunk driver hits another driver and paralyzes him, so people decide that cars should be restricted. Disregarding the irresponsible guy who was drunk behind the wheel.

I was raised from when I was in early grade school to know what guns are, what's right and what's wrong, and to respect them. I knew how to handle them. I knew they weren't toys, nor were they some mysterious thing I needed to check out. There was no mystery, no desire to "play" around with them.

Hide them from your kids like hiding dirty magazines, and it's just going to encourage them to discover them on their own and learn about them in their own way, not yours (and probably not a safe way).
 
Yeah, no matter what there will always be scum bags making guns and selling them on the Black Market.
 
Floydd said:
The U.S is in desperate need of new gun laws.
No, we don't. We are in desperate-need of better parents. Parents who actually take it upon themselves to fulfill their duty to actually be parents and do parenting, not passing off the upbringing of their kids to MTV, video games, and their equally-clueless peers.

There are plenty of gun laws already and the things that people do with the guns are already illegal. A criminal is going to be a criminal, guns or no guns. There is a cancer in our society that is leading people to crime, but it's not the guns that are causing it. It's the brain controlling the finger on the trigger.

And remember: the knee-jerk gun laws proposed after Virginia Tech were pointless. The shooter would've still been able to meet the new criteria and legally buy those guns.

The fact you can buy a handgun at the same place where you can buy your jeans scares me.
Bullshit. Name the store.
 
You buy your ticket yet?

To what?

To the gun show

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LevesqueIsKing said:
Damn straight thats my kinda porn.
that was straight? :lol::lol:

i like guns
guns is a big topic... i'm sure we'll all be in agreement soon! :yesnod:

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sremick said:
Bullshit. Name the store.

Academy Sports Store, Houston, TX.

sremick said:
So it's the gun's fault?

Why wasn't the gun kept locked-up? Irresponsible parents.

The gun was kept hidden... The kid just found out where it was and was mucking around with it. He had a few times before... this time it was loaded.



sremick said:
Why wasn't the kid raised to respect guns as dangerous (like knives or the stoves), instead of being insulated from them so he didn't know what to do when he found one? Fault there lies on the parents again, but somewhat on your cousin as well.

Oh, we respect that guns are dangerous, haha. That's exactly why I'm posting this now.

sremick said:
What happened to your cousin is a tragedy, but you're treating it akin to a situation where a drunk driver hits another driver and paralyzes him, so people decide that cars should be restricted. Disregarding the irresponsible guy who was drunk behind the wheel.

I'm all for drunk drivers being restricted. Cars are a more necessary part of life than guns... As you can see from Australia, people are perfectly able to function without them... and lives are saved. If you can provide a feasible, safer form of transportation with the same efficiency then I'd be happy to take that option.

sremick said:
I was raised from when I was in early grade school to know what guns are, what's right and what's wrong, and to respect them. I knew how to handle them. I knew they weren't toys, nor were they some mysterious thing I needed to check out. There was no mystery, no desire to "play" around with them.

We weren't taught how to use them... (note: there are no shootings in school here) but we knew that they weren't toys. If you're referring to my cousin again, blame crappy rural education, and bad parenting.

sremick said:
Hide them from your kids like hiding dirty magazines, and it's just going to encourage them to discover them on their own and learn about them in their own way, not yours (and probably not a safe way).

Not having them in the house would spare having to hide them, and having them potentially discovered and misused.

Again, I'm all for gun education... but I really don't see the need to have a gun in the house with children. To me, they're so much more dangerous than having knives in the house. I have no need for them. Unnecessary risk.
 

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