Super Smash Bros. 4

[Mr. MR]

Since I'm new here and I'm too lazy too read everything back, I'm just gonna ask you guys:
What are your predictions for the new SSB4 characters? Which characters would you really want to join? And which characters do you think/hope will return from previous SSB games?

I predicted Rosalina 6 months before it happened. That was before she was a playable character in Mario 3D World.

I did an analysis of Fire Emblem Characters that could be playable in Smash 4:
http://www.wiichat.com/forum/smash-brothers/80286-super-smash-bros-4-a-page245.html#post1269279
Short Version:
1. Robin (Avatar)
2. Tiki
3. Lucina
4. Chrom
5. Walhart
6. Lyndis
I am sure Ike will return, and I think Roy will not be returning.

Here is my super list of likely/semi-likely characters I want to see in Smash

Spoiler

1. Tiki (Fire Emblem)
Because a want a Manakete for Super Smash Bros.

2. Little Mac (PunchOut!!)
His appearance in Smash is long overdue. [This list needs to be updated now that Little Mac is in Smash]

3. Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)
I want to see him back.

4. Shulk (Xenoblade)
The Monado would be awesome to use in Smash.

5. Ridley (Metroid)
The series needs a villain and another character.

6. Palutena (Kid Icarus)
The series needs more characters. Plus the rumor is fueling everyones hype for this character.

7. Masked Link (Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask)
Majora's Mask has been getting some attention recently (Mask in ALBW, Skull Kid Assist Trophy, ect.) and I would love to see Deku Link, Zora Link, and Goron Link as playable characters. Also the Final Smash would have to be Fierce Deity Link.

8. Avatar/My Unit/Robin (Fire Emblem: Awakening)
Like the Pokémon Trainer represents the trainers of Pokémon, Avatar represents the strategists of Fire Emblem. Plus the ability to use a Tome and a Sword would make for an interesting moveset. Also, maybe they will make Avatar both a male model and a female model like they did with the WiiFit Trainer.

9. Professor Layton
Because, why not.

10. Toon Zelda with either Tetra or Phantom Zelda (Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker or Spirit Tracks)
Tetra would be awesome but I would actually prefer Phantom Zelda, even though Spirit Tracks was not the most popular game. Toon Shiek is also an option but I would rather see a transformation that is unique to (and actually exists in) the Toon Zelda games.

11. Pichu Bros.
Going off the Pra Mai but instead with Pichu.

12. Pac-Man
To have a game with so many company faces like Mario, Sonic, and Mega Man, having Pac-Man in that group would be the coolest thing ever. Odds are up because Namco is helping develop Smash 4.

13.Any Belmont (Castlevania)
Any Belmont would do but if Snake doesn't make it into Smash 4, Konami could throw this series into Smash.

14. Something Dragon Quest/Warrior
This series need more Western recognition. Plus that might motivate Nintendo or Square Enix whoever is in charge of translations, to move the DQX westward boosting the sales of Wii U.

And here is a new list of characters I want but will probably never happen
1. Hat Kid (A Hat in Time)
2. Batman
3. Altair or Ezio (Assassin's Creed)
4. Minecraft Steve
5. The Soldier (TF2)

It would be cool if they got into Smash but I am not super fanboy adamant about them.
I also made a bunch of movesets for a lot of my wish list:
And my Little Mac Moveset was surprisingly accurate.
http://www.wiichat.com/forum/smash-brothers/80871-moveset-thread.html#post1206907

 

[Neosquid]

Me and MR have had arguments about the Zelda characters and the Fire Emblem characters, we don't really agree at all. Like, I think Masked Link has no chance, and while I think Toon Zelda is possible I think Ghirahim is a lot more likely. I also think Tingle is about as likely as Toon Zelda. The only Fire Emblem characters I see as likely are Chrom, Lucina, and the Avatar.

 

[Mr. MR]

I think in the whole Fire Emblem cast we just disagree with Tiki

 

[Neosquid]

I don't think Walhart or Lyn are likely either, I mean Lyn is notable and all she's just so overshadowed by the most prominent Awakening characters. Unless you don't either and I'm misunderstanding you.

 

[Mr. MR]

A top six list is kinda unnecessary because for bottom ones to get in they have to beat the top 3

Robin and Tiki bring something fresh to Smash while the Chrom and Lucina not so much. That's why I have them so high

Actually when I think about it, there is another reason why Robin will be the character they choose.

Huge Awakening Spoiler

Spoiler

Robin is also the villain. The much needed spot of Fire Emblem villain can be his/hers

Here's what I think will be the Fire Emblem roster
Marth, Ike, Robin

 

[Captain]

I really enjoy playing with sword characters, so yeah I would love Ghirahim to be in the game.
I recently placed this comment on a channel called "Ninbuzz" and it got 22 likes, so it must be a good idea ^^.

I'd like Ganondorf to be a little faster than he is at the moment, but the biggest change I would make is replace his downward special, (which looks a lot like Captain Falcons, so it wouldn't be that bad if they replaced it) with a move where he (finally) pulls out his sword so you can choose to fight with or without his sword.
Obviously, he would be stronger, but slower when fighting with his sword.

I'm pretty sure they're not gonna do that, but you gotta admit, that would be pretty awesome

I actually think Ike won't come back either. I think Chrom will replace him, but I'm not going too in depth since I never played a Fire Emblem game, even though they look great.

That's a really cool analasys and I hope you're right about many of them ^^.

Don't you just love how people keep suggesting Shrek and Powerpuff Girls on Miiverse? Pathetic >.<

I actually hope Jigglypuff doesn't return. A whole new pokemon would be cool though. As well as a new Star Fox character.
Pokemon trainer probably won't return either. I hope King K Rool will join, but I doubt it.
I don't care much about what characters are returning, even though I really like R.O.B. and Snake, but if I really wanna play with them I can just go back and play Brawl.

God damn, I'm not looking forward to playing without my Gamecube controller

 

[Mr. MR]

I really enjoy playing with sword characters, so yeah I would love Ghirahim to be in the game.
I recently placed this comment on a channel called "Ninbuzz" and it got 22 likes, so it must be a good idea ^^.

I watch NinBuzz too

I'd like Ganondorf to be a little faster than he is at the moment, but the biggest change I would make is replace his downward special, (which looks a lot like Captain Falcons, so it wouldn't be that bad if they replaced it) with a move where he (finally) pulls out his sword so you can choose to fight with or without his sword.

Obviously, he would be stronger, but slower when fighting with his sword.

I'm pretty sure they're not gonna do that, but you gotta admit, that would be pretty awesome

It would be pretty cool although I don't know if Ganon is associated with a single sword unless that sword is Ghirahim. I personally liked Ganon in Melee, Brawl, and Project M.

I actually think Ike won't come back either. I think Chrom will replace him, but I'm not going too in depth since I never played a Fire Emblem game, even though they look great.

I like Ike because he is not Marth/Roy. Chrom in my opinion falls under the Marth category.

I actually hope Jigglypuff doesn't return. A whole new pokemon would be cool though. As well as a new Star Fox character.
Pokemon trainer probably won't return either. I hope King K Rool will join, but I doubt it.
I don't care much about what characters are returning, even though I really like R.O.B. and Snake, but if I really wanna play with them I can just go back and play Brawl.

If Jigglypuff does get into Smash 4 she could be different because of her new Fairy typing. I want to see how that effects her gameplay.
I think Pokémon Trainer is probably going to be replaced by Charizard.
I want to see Snake in this next one because of the new 3rd Parties.

God damn, I'm not looking forward to playing without my Gamecube controller

There might be a way around it, if they allow Classic Controllers for Smash 4
http://www.mayflash.com/Products/NINTENDOWiiU/W007.html

 

[Splash_King]

Someone go find the predictions thread.

I think it's very likely that Ike is gone.

lolno

And here is a new list of characters I want but will probably never happen

5. The Soldier (TF2)

Valve must'a went with SEGA since they knew they'd never get any'a their characters in Smash Bros. lol.

I also think Tingle is about as likely as Toon Zelda.

nah

Tingle's gonna get the Waluigi treatment.

I really enjoy playing with sword characters

I would love Ghirahim to be in the game.

God damn, I'm not looking forward to playing without my Gamecube controller

I recently placed this comment on a channel called "Ninbuzz" and it got 22 likes, so it must be a good idea ^^.

I'd like Ganondorf to be a little faster than he is at the moment, but the biggest change I would make is replace his downward special, (which looks a lot like Captain Falcons, so it wouldn't be that bad if they replaced it) with a move where he (finally) pulls out his sword so you can choose to fight with or without his sword.
Obviously, he would be stronger, but slower when fighting with his sword.

protip: never use youtubes community to gauge how good something is

Years back in the Homebrewing days of Brawl+, there was a moveset hack for Ganon that let 'em pull his sword out with D-taunt, (obviously) givin' 'em an entirely new sword-based moveset. Was pretty good for an amateur hack, and the idea itself is obviously great. Givin' Ganon two movesets would completely declone 'em.

Don't you just love how people keep suggesting Shrek and Powerpuff Girls on Miiverse? Pathetic >.<

noone here uses miiverse lol (i dont count since im never active there)

If Jigglypuff does get into Smash 4 she could be different because of her new Fairy typing.

Maybe she'll get a new Special or Final Smash, but we all know veterans don't change much in transitions from game to game.

... Which is a cryin' shame since Ganon's moveset needs even more de-cloning.

I think Pokémon Trainer is probably going to be replaced by Charizard.

A bold prediction.

 

[Mr. MR]

Someone go find the predictions thread.

http://www.wiichat.com/forum/smash-brothers/82369-wiichats-smash4-group-roster.html
You mean this unfinished thing

 

[Captain]

I dunno how to quote certain sentences so I'm just gonna reply like this.

Well Ganon uses his sword in Twilight Princess and he has a sword taunt, so why not make him use it?
I honestly don't get why they would give almost the exact same move-set from Captain Falcon... It just doesn't make sense Dx

Yeah I think Jiggly is gonna return as well since he's in the original SSB game... Too bad though, like spash king said, I don't think they're gonna change his move-set just because he's fairy-type now.

Does that link thingy really work? Have you tried it out yet? And do you know if they ship to Europe and also work for PAL-Controllers? (Dunno if there's a difference)

Yeah I never really got into that Homebrew shizzle.

I'm really excited for the next character reveal :O Hope it'll happen soon.

 

[Mr. MR]

Does that link thingy really work? Have you tried it out yet? And do you know if they ship to Europe and also work for PAL-Controllers? (Dunno if there's a difference)

All it does is allows you to plug a GC Controller into a Wii Mote and use it as a Classic Controller.
People use this to play Brawl on the Wii U but we don't know if it will work for Smash 4

 

[Captain]

Ah I see, I still Brawl on my Wii.

It doesn't show any price or button how to buy it though...

Also: I don't think Lucas will return.

 

[Splash_King]

I dunno how to quote certain sentences so I'm just gonna reply like this.

Gotta do it all manually, editing the post and copying 'n pasting the BBcode wherever it needs to go.

I honestly don't get why they would give Ganon almost the exact same move-set from Captain Falcon... It just doesn't make sense Dx

Time constraints. Same reason why Roy 'n Young Link's movesets were so very similar to Marth 'n vLink. Though I dunno 'bout Weegee and Mario. My Smash 64 knowledge is limited.

 

[Mr. MR]

Ah I see, I still Brawl on my Wii.

It doesn't show any price or button how to buy it though...

You can find it on Amazon or something like that

 

[Captain]

Ah I found it, thanks.

Now I just gotta hope it'll ship to Europe as well.

Not sure if I'm already gotta buy them or not, since it's not sure whether SSB4 will support the classic controller (pro) or not...