Smash Bros Site Discussion

[nic7]

Yeah, that happened like a week ago. People were pretty upset back then, but now it's pretty old news..

And besides, UK-ers might not even get the game until after Summer. You see less complaining coming from them then you do from Americans. And we could have the game for months before they can get their hands on it...

 

[MikemasterM1]

but these delays are really pissing me off. im getting sick of waiting for the game but hopefully it'll be worth it.

 

["Shion"]

seems like the japanese players guide is getting leaked from 2chan

idk, im not believing it until i see more proof

starting roster/secret characters:
Starting Roster:

Mario
Peach
Bowser
Kirby
Link
Zelda/Sheik
Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer
Yoshi
Donkey Kong
Samus/Zero Suit Samus
Lucas
Captain Falcon
Ike
Wario
Pit
Ice Climbers

Subspace Unlockable (it only gives a brief requirement).

Luigi- Defeat Bowser
Wart- Defeat Wart
Meta Knight- Defeat Meta Knight
Ganondorf- Defeat Ganondorf)
Tingle- Defeat Kracko (alot of lesser baddies seem to appear as bosses)
Mewtwo- Defeat Mewtwo
Lucario- Defeat Majora's Mask
Kamek- Defeat Kamek
Diddy Kong- Defeat Rayquaza
King K. Rool- Defeat King K. Rool
Falco- Defeat Emperor Bulbax
Krystal- Defeat Black Knight
King DeDeDe- Defeat King DeDeDe
Ridley- Defeat Ridley
Ness- Defeat Gnawty
Black Shadow- Defeat Black Shadow
Marth- Defeat Medusa
Titania- Defeat Kraid
Mona- Defeat Wario
Olimar and Pikmin- Defeat Porky
Balloon Fighter- Defeat Andross
Snake- Defeat Crying Wolf (guess Kojima wanted to advertise MGS4 some)
Sonic- Defeat Eggman

Other Unlockables (alot of "cute" and "classic" dudes):
Stanley the Bug Man: Beat Classic Mode with 17 Characters
Jigglypuff: Beat Classic Mode once
Mr. Game and Watch: Beat Classic Mode with 30 Characters
Villager: Beat "Animal Crossing" (event?)
Mii: Beat "Mii Parade" (event)
Slime: Unlock All Characters

^^^Don't know if these guys appear in SSE during storyline, but you can replay SSE levels later on with any character you've unlocked.


other:
Also...

- Giratina (Pokemon) is a SSE boss. Seen fighting Samus and Olimar.
- Eggman appears in his Green Hill Zone Mecha in SSE. Sonic and Mario are fighting him.
- You play as Charizard by himself in one level of SSE.
- SSE has new minigames. One seems to be an Epona level as Link, and another is a minecart level with Kirby and Zelda based off the ones in Donkey Kong Country.
- There is a mode designed exclusively for the Villager. He can wear outfits based on the other characters (hats, pants, and shorts) and can change genders. One pic has him dressed in Mario's cap, a yellow shirt (Pikachu), and what appears to be a Toga-like dress (Pit).
- The Mii can be changed on the character select to one of your favorite Mii's on your Wii. It's shirt changes color depending on whose team you're on.
- Classic level based off the old Donkey Kong stages, but in 3D.
- Slime is the "GW" of the game, unlocked after getting everyone else. His moves seem to be based off other Square games, including a Dragoon style jump.
- In SSE, you fight Mewtwo who summons Pokemon to attack you (the pic shows Torterra doing what appears to be an Earthquake). Lucario fights him.
- King K. Rool's moveset seems to involve his infamous Crown Throw, his Blunderbuss (from Kaptain K. Rool DKC2), his Helipack (K. Roolstein DKC3), and boxing gear (Krusha K. Rool DK64). He seems to quickly change outfits when using attacks.
- Wart has moves based off Subcon (the Mario 2 World) baddies (he can shoot bubbles like in the game, but throws bombs like Mouser it seems). Also, Phanto, that mask who chased you, is part of his FS.
- Wart is seen in a pic of the Mario 2 level from Melee (the one with Birdo), and King K. Rool is seen on a pirate ship (with a Donkey Kong shaped island in the back, so Gangplank Galleon it seems)
- Mii's FS is cool, and it's Mii Parade. A boatload of Miis from the Wii flood the arena and push people off while your Mii is held in the air safely by a hand (like when you pick one up in the Mii Channel). His attack list involves many sports equipment, and his specials do as well. One is boxing gloves, another is a bowling ball, a tennis ball and racket, and his recovery move is, hillariously enough, the Wii Nunchuk.

- Animal Crossing Villager seems to have a simmilar setup, and both seem to be more "novelty" characters. Villager can use his fishing pole like a hookshot, his bug net as a parachute, and his slingshot. His shovel, the Down B, digs a hole in the ground and reveals throwable items (usually apples, but sometimes it seems Pitfalls) and throw them at anopponent like Peach. His FS involves him throwing alot of furniture around (like Pianos, Gyroids, a NES) that crowds the field and can send people flying.

- Starry Sky is an AC level, based off of the...well, starry sky of Wild World. It plays like the pictochat level with various constellations forming ground. Gulliver sometimes crashes by.



more other:
- Titania's FS involves her charging around the lower field on a horse, decked in armor, and hitting all in her way. The horse moves by itself, but you aim her weapon to slash at opponents.

- Titania is the first heavy-female character due to her armor. Her weapon of choice is a large Axe. Her attacks seem to be mainly ground base, with her recovery move a "helicopter" with the lance.

-Stanley's moveset is like Ice Climbers, expanding his simple moveset of his game. His bug spray is his weapon, which can propel him like a rocket by charging up, stun opponents, and pull opponents towards him.

-FS is a swarm of Bugs, ironically, that Stanley can control with the control pad (or movement of your choice).

stages:

Stages:

Starting:

Smash Brothers:
Battlefield

Mario:
Delfino Plaza
Princess Peach’s Castle (Melee)

Zelda:
Bridge of Eldin
Temple (Melee)

Pokemon:
Pokemon Stadium 2
Pokefloats (Melee)

Kirby:
Battleship Halberd
Fountain of Dreams (Melee)

Yoshi:
Yoshi’s Island
Yoshi’s Island (Melee)

Donkey Kong:
Rumble Falls
Kongo Jungle (Melee)

Star Fox:
Lylat Cruise
Corneria (Melee)

Metroid:
Frigate Orpheon
Brinstar (Melee)

Earthbound:
Onett (Melee)

F-Zero:
Port Town (in a style to Mute City)

Fire Emblem:
Castle Siege

Wario:
Warioware

Pit:
Skyworld

Ice Climbers:
The Summit
Unlockable:

Smash Brothers:
Final Destination (Melee. Defeat Super All Star)
Black Hole (from SSE. Like Final Destination, but altered gravity. Beat SSE to unlock)

Mario:
Mario Circuit (play 10 hours)
Luigi’s Mansion (beat classic mode with Luigi. On top of the mansion with various ghosts attacking)
Mushroom Kingdom 2 (beat classic mode with Wart. From Melee)
Rainbow Ride (beat classic mode with Mario, Bowser, and Peach)


Zelda:
Great Sea (beat classic mode with Tingle. The Tingle Tower is seen in the background, but the level is divided into two islands with the King of Red Lions a platform on occasions. Pirate Ships attack as well, and the level has a Cel-shaded look. From Wind Waker)
Twilight Realm (beat classic mode with Ganondorf. The Twilight version of Hyrule Castle, the stage corrodes on and off)
Great Bay (Beat classic mode with Link and Zelda. From Melee, but Tingle, not his balloon, are gone)

Pokemon:
Mt. Coronet (beat classic mode with Lucario. From DP, a stage atop on a high mountain. Dialga and Palkia appear on occasion to cause either a slow or increase in speed, or make platforms expand or shrink.)
Battle Tower (beat classic mode with Mewtwo. From Emerald. On an elevator which descends into the air, and stops on occasion. Pokemon attack from the sides during pauses)
Pokemon Stadium (beat classic mode with Pikachu and PT. From Melee)

Kirby:
Mt. DeDeDe (beat classic mode with DeDeDe. A boxing arena with Kirby Characters occasionally jumping into the fray.)
Green Greens (beat classic mode with Kirby. From Melee)

Yoshi:
Baby Bowser’s Castle (beat classic mode with Kamek. The final boss room where you fought Baby Bowser in Story, that tree is seen in the background and drops healing items on occasion)

Donkey Kong:
Gangplank Galleon (beat classic mode with K. Rool. A large pirate ship off DK isle, cannonballs rain down on occasion)
Jungle Japes (beat classic mode with Diddy Kong. From Melee)
Construction Site (beat classic mode with Stanley. A 3D version of the old DK arcade game, takes place in the air on an unfinished construction site, barrels role down quickly to try and run you over)

Star Fox:
Venom (beat classic mode with Falco. From Melee)
Dinosaur Planet (beat classic mode with Krystal. Various dinosaurs on occasions charge across the ruins.)

Metroid:
Norfair (beat classic mode with Ridley)

Earthbound:
Fourside (beat classic mode with Lucas)
New Pork City (beat classic mode with Ness)

F-Zero:
Big Blue (beat classic mode with Black Shadow)

Fire Emblem:
Warzone (beat classic mode with Ike, Marth, and Titania. Like Castle Siege, takes place in the middle of a battle…this time, on a large open field (with platforms) with a view of a fight going on. Sometimes an army will charge under you, forcing you to take to higher platforms or get ran over)


lack of isaac makes me still, roster seems kind of like bullshit. 48 characters sounds cool though.

 

[MikemasterM1]

who is slime? 0_o nice find

 

[sorabrawl]

I don't trust this
Slime as a character rather Geno and Sora
this is wrong
and also why would they update on the website about a stage that you have to unlock?

 

["Shion"]

i dunno man, thats why i say its bullshit

 

[sorabrawl]

don't trust anything until you got proof from the official website or game

 

["Shion"]

Yeah...

another one on NeoGAF have this member that claims to know the roster but can't reveal it due to Nintendo. But what he can say is this:

35 characters, 41 stages

Apparently, this guy is very trustworthy and has a long standing reputation on the forum for delivering accurate Tekken info.

He sounds kind of legit to me based on the way people talk about him there.

Does this sound more accurate?

 

[sorabrawl]

that guy's probably winding people up
but if that's true why would there only be 4 unlockable characters?
7 spots left on dojo.

 

["Shion"]

You think so?

Man, this guy is actually accurate on what he tells others on their forum.

He gave them all accurate Tekken information regarding the most recent tekken game....

I guess this guy also has good connections with nintendo to know this info.

But it CAN be bullshit as well.

 

[sorabrawl]

I heard a Tekken character was on brawl but imdb is rubbish sometimes
Imdb said that the guy from Resident Evil is on brawl also but that doesn't mix with brawl at all
also for some reason i'm starting to like the idea of megaman on brawl, maybe because then i can give the character a piece of my mind. :mad5: :lol: :sick: :ciappa:

 

["Shion"]

Naw man, no Tekken character is in Brawl.

But the dude from Resident Evil has a possibility of being an assist character.

I don't think that he will make it as a character....

 

[sorabrawl]

Tekken did have a gba game but i don't want tekken on it (spoil the game)
Resident Evil would be a very bad choice for brawl because some audiences may not appreciate it

 

[nic7]

and also why would they update on the website about a stage that you have to unlock?

Why wouldn't they? Sonic and Snake have both been confirmed to be unlockable and they were updated. Why couldn't a stage?

But anyway, that's a nice find. I don't really see it as being accurate. Balloon Fighter? Come on..

Plus 17 starting characters sounds like a very odd number... as does 46 total..

And Tingle being in Brawl is ridiculous. (Even though I think it'd be pretty cool to destroy him) Nintendo knows how much it's Western Audience hates him. They'd never bring him in.

And a Mii and an Animal Crosser will both not make it in. One could, but they are far too similar to both get in. (In other words, the Mii's not in)

 

[sorabrawl]

there is an animal crossing logo isn't there
in those demos in e4all